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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Nipuna » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:16 pm

Thanks guys for Wishing me. I will post my experience later.

I surf the net 30 mins for a day. now i am spending those 30. that's why i got time to post replies here.


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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Neo » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:37 pm

Hey, we are not going to blame you for coming to ExpertCore. As you are one of senior members, we will never forget you. But please concentrate 100% on the exams. After that you can surf 24-hours a day if you want.
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Nipuna » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:41 am

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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Herath » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:25 am

I have been reversing the PCB of the UPS to get some schematics. And I came up something like this,






The resistors are same valued.

The two LM339N s and the LM324 are powered using this power converter.

The output from the diodes has been taken as positive output and the output from the two connected resistors is connected to the ground.(0 Volt).

I am not familiar with this configuration of rectification. And I don't see how this is possible.(Still thinking that I have incorrectly traced the PCB).

Is this possible?. This can be done with 4 resistors. I wonder why they have built it like that.(Lack of high resistors with higher resistance? ) :roll:

And oh my!, there is a damn lot of resistors (almost 100). And it seems a bit hard to reverse. :geek:
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Neo » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:37 am

Can it be this?

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L1, L2 are given power from the two ends of winding and N is the centre tap (Considered 0 volts).

If that is the case it could be something similar to a full-wave rectifier (similar to a bridge rectifier without centre tap) as below.

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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Herath » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:15 am

Yes, that seems to be full wave rectification with two diodes. Thanks.



I checked the both diodes with 1 pin desoldered. And the both diodes are ok. Checked with multimeter. Replace the both LM339N and the LM324N. Replaced an unsure relay driver transistor. Still no luck. I will check further. (Or wait  ;) )
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Herath » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:21 am

I think I found the problem with the UPS. It is nothing else, but a dead battery. I borrowed my brothers motor cycle battery for testing after I had nothing to check further on the Mainboard. After connecting that battery. UPS came online with green indicator up. disconnecting A/C switches the UPS to battery. But I did not try the UPS on battery under load since the motor cycle battery was just a 2.5Ah and also I did not want to damage the borrowed item.  :D  

Anyway I am thinking of changing the battery. (I have already played with the main circuit. I removed 3 ICs and replaced them with new ICs, with IC bases.  ;)   ).

I will have to go to Pettah to find a battery. ( I hate those dirty and noisy streets.  :evil: )
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Neo » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:21 am

Great that you found the problem after some experiments. There is a place near Maya Avenue (Kirulapone) called Magnet Cells who sells a good UPS battery. I remember they were giving me some warranty too. Buying things from Pettah is not always inexpensive. Let us know on how it is going after placing the battery.
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Nipuna » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:35 pm

Hey Guys Here is my Story

First I tried to turn on my UPS but it automatically turned off with lighting green and red button and making a beep.I sent my UPS to our shop along with my father.
Then my father took UPS back home and it was turning on and working as normal. I asked my father what he did, he said He removed one pin of ML 339 from the main circuit board. Then I plugged it to AC and then tried but after power gone it automatically turn off with a long beep and lighting yellow LED.
Then I replaced All the ICs with bases because I'm not sure how long these ICs wok. :D  :D  :D
But the problem is same. I have Replaced the Battery too. :cry:  :cry:
Then I checked the Transistor that is situated between LM339 and LM324. That Transistor was C8050. That is, it is the Problem (There was a Resistance Change Between Collector Pin and Emitter Pin ) then I replaced it with C9018 because I couldn't wait until my father bring a C8050 Transistor from our shop ;)  ;)  ;)

Now UPS working well as Before. I think My story will help All you Guys to Solve your Problem. ;)  ;)  ;)

That's MY STORY :)  :)  :)
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Re: DCP 650VA UPS circuit

Postby Herath » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:01 pm

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